„Verschleiß“ von Menschen / Genosse Mauser / „Opfer der Geschichte“

In this conversation, taking place shortly after the German reunification, Alexander Kluge and Heiner Müller discuss historical developments from the perspective of playwright Heiner Müller’s view on subjectivity. Among other things, they talk about the theoretical work of political philosopher Carl Schmitt, Russian literature, Müller’s play “Mauser” and an artwork by Anselm Kiefer.